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I'm pretty sure that the odds on Megabucks are the same everywhere. It is a 'proprietary game,' meaning the casino and slot maker (IGT) share in the profits. As I understand it, such propriety games are generally set to a return of about 88% by the slot maker, and the casinos do not have the option for a looser or tighter version.
The Wheel of Fortune game, with the big jackpot, I believe is also a proprietary game. Video poker odds are dictated by the pay table. For example, a 9-6 Jacks or Better game will pay 99.54%, assuming optimal strategy and an infinite amount of play, regardless of where the machine is or number of number of hands the player gets on the draw.
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You're right, it is impossible for me to know without Microgaming giving me the details on how their reels are weighted. I have asked some of the major software companies for such information, but thus far nobody has volunteered anything. However, I can tell you that the average payback for all slots at the Golden Palace for the month of March 2000 was 95.67%. This information is available at the Golden Palace web site, click on the Price Waterhouse Coopers monthly payout review.
You're welcome! In an 8/5 game, the jackpot would have to reach 37,704 coins to reach 100%, assuming you have to play 20 coins to win it. Assuming only 8 coins, the meter would have to reach 15,082 coins. On a 7/5 machine and 20 coins required the meter would have to reach, 46,956 coins. These figures assume you are playing the proper strategy for these pay tables with a per coin payoff for a royal flush of 800. As the jackpot grows some strategy adjustments are called for to more aggressively try for the royal. These adjustments were not calculated in this answer. It doesn't make any difference what the coinage is.
I would assume that the odds are the same at all Microgaming casinos. All casinos probably contribute money to the same account from which the jackpot is paid. This way, the individual casino from which the jackpot was hit does not have to reach into their own pocket when somebody wins. Mid-level payouts are probably paid by the casino itself.
The minimum applies to every machine. Someone with the Gaming Control Board in Carson City, Nevada, told me that every machine in the state must meet minimum payback percentages. The only exception, he said, are on some antique machines in Virginia City.
Thanks for the kind words. I have barely heard of teams of slot players doing this. However, this is very common with progressive video poker players. There are teams of these professional players who routinely check the meters and when they find one high enough they call their teammates in an attempt to monopolize the machines until somebody hits the jackpot.
The problem with slots is that it is not clear to the player what the odds are of hitting the jackpot so it is not obvious what the jackpot size has to reach for the machine to become profitable. Plus, it probably rarely happens that a meter gets high enough to overcome the house edge.
For variable-state slots, you have to know what the positive point is for that model of machine. For example, on the Piggy Bankin' slot machine, I think it becomes positive when there are about 40 credits in the bank. At that point the player is supposed to play one coin at a time until the bank is hit. The book Robbing the One-Armed Bandits by Charles Lund (1999) covers specific positive points for various machines, however many of the machines covered in that book are now hard to find.
As for how to determine when a progressive jackpot is unusually high, you'll either have to observe it over a long period of time or find someone who has done the same. For example, SlotCharts.com keeps data on progressive slots at online casinos. But even when a progressive slot is unusually high, it's impossible to know at what point it becomes high enough to be a positive-expectation game without knowing how the probabilities on the machine are programmed. In my section Deconstructing Megabucks I attempt to figure out when the jackpot is large enough to have a player advantage.
Update: Since this question was published, SlotCharts.com is blocked to U.S. traffic.
Although this is easy with video poker with slots there is no way to tell without knowing how the machine was programmed.
That is true only of the super-big jackpots like Megabucks and Wheel of Fortune. When somebody wins a representative of IGT (the slot-maker) verifies the win is legitimate and then pays the winner. A portion of each bet made goes to a fund to pay the progressive.
According to Nevada Gaming Control Board regulation 5.110.5(c), the casino licensee must add the progressive jackpot to a similar game at the same establishment.
I agree with your hypothesis, that they pulled out the Quartermania machines and rolled the progressive jackpot into Wheel of Fortune. It can't be a coincidence.
Here in Nevada the casino would have to roll the progressive jackpot into another game, per Nevada Gaming Control Board regulation 5.110.5(c). If there is any such policy at Foxwoods I am unaware of it. If Foxwoods would like to express their version in this forum I would be happy to accept their statement.
You’re welcome. I don’t guarantee this as fact, but here is how I believe it works. First, the point at which the jackpot hits is randomly chosen between $50,000 and $100,000. I think each hit point is equally likely.
When the meter crosses the predestined hit point, everybody with a slot card in and playing will win $50 in fee play. To be considered “playing” the player must have his player card inserted, and have made a bet within the last ten seconds. Then, somehow, a machine is chosen at random from all those being actively played to win the Jumbo Jackpot. It does not appear that the bet amount matters, so all qualifying machines have the same probability of being chosen. As long as you can actively play multiple machines, that would muliply your chances of the jackpot by number of machines played, and you would qualify for the free play on all of them.
I would like to thank Bob Dancer for his help with this question.
Note: This answer has been updated in June, 2008, after a rule change to the Jumbo Jackpot.
As usual, the person asking the question is right. For the benefit of other readers, I indicate the rules in my March 4, 2008, column. The probability of the jackpot hitting is inversely proportional to the how far the jackpot is from the guaranteed hit point of $100,000. The closer you get to $100,000 there is a smaller range where the jackpot can hit, so the odds of hitting at any given moment go up. If the current jackpot is j, the probability it will hit before the jackpot goes up $1 (for j<=$99,999) is 1/(100,000-j). At a jackpot of $50,000 the probability of hitting before going up $1 is 0.002%. At a jackpot of $99,999, the probability of hittng before going up $1 is 100%. So, you win the bet.
No, there isn’t. I don’t like it any more than you do. I think the player should be allowed to know the rules and/or the odds about what he is gambling on. Others have asked me if invoking the state Freedom of Information Act. I tend to doubt it would help or apply. As far as I know, the only place with such a right to know might be Holland. I’m told in Amsterdam information about the virtual reel stripping is indicated in little cards on the machines. You could in theory calculate the odds with that information and the pay table.
I saw a $1 progressive jackpot at a casino in Michigan based on the flop and player’s two hole cards. It pays as follows:Free Kronos Slot Game
Royal flush: 100% of jackpot
Straight flush: 10% of jackpot
Four of a kind: $300
Full house: $50
Flush: $40
Straight: $30
Three of a kind: $9
What would be the odds on a $105,000 jackpot?
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The return for a jackpot of j is 0.530569 + j×0.029242. So, if j=105,000, the return would be 83.76%. For more information, see my page on Ultimate Texas Hold ’Em.
The formula is V = P × [(1-(1+i)-n)]/(i/(1+i)), where:
V = value of annuity
P = individual payment amount
i = interest rate
n = number of payments
Let’s say the jackpot was $15M. Using i = 4.66%, and n=25, the fair payment to keep up with inflation would be $982,525. You would actually get 15M/25 = $600,000. Actual payment/fair payment = 61.07%.
Not that you asked, but the formula if the payments are made at the end of each year is V = P × [(1-(1+i)-n)]/i.
This question was raised and discussed in the forum of my companion site Wizard of Vegas.
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Alongside Kronos, you’ll also find many other symbols related to the Titans. These include a golden temple, Pegasus, a throne and a golden bangle and you’ll also find the four playing card suits. The game is set against the backdrop of a bright blue sky, the reels themselves a darker blue colour. Graphically the game is a good one, although has a lightly outdated feel due to the lack of animation when forming part of a win line. The accompanying sound to the slot is a little gentle when you actually consider the subject matter, but this improves greatly during the free spins feature round.
The slot has five reels with 20 win lines, with the option of playing any number between 1 and 20 lines. You’ll have two options when choosing the bet amount. Firstly there is the classic panel where you’ll choose the coin amount and the number of lines. The quick bet option offers you a number of boxes on a scrollable line, each box showing your total stake for a spin.
The best paying symbol in the game is Kronos himself. Should he appear five times in a row you’ll win 750 coins. Should he appear four times in a row you’ll win 200 coins and three times wins you 40 coins – both of these wins paying from both left to right and right to left, the only symbol in the game which pays both these ways. Kronos is also a stacked symbol, so could potentially pay out a large number of big wins at once if appearing multiple times on each reel. The temple and Pegasus pay out 600 coins for 5 in a row, while the other symbols pay between 400 and 100 coins for five.
The wild symbol in the game is a golden lion, much resembling a door knocker – this will substitute for any other symbol apart from the feature symbol.
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The feature symbol of the slot is an oversized golden shield with a large K in the middle, surrounded by three wings. If this symbol appears three or more times across any of the reels, the free spins round is activated.
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